I kōrero a Eruera Lee-Morgan ki a Rihi Tenana e pā ana ki tana whakahaere i te hīkoi ki Paremata mō te kaupapa Oranga Tamariki – 30th July, Manako, Radio Waatea.
Original interview:
Spoken summary (script below):
Kua mārama te tino whakaae a Eruera ki te tino whakaaro o rātou e porotēhi ana. Ko tāna, ‘Kāore pea he kaupapa i tua mai, i tua atu i te oranga o ā mātou tamariki… me mutu pea te rāwekeweke i ā tātou tamariki mokopuna.’ I kōrero ia ki tētahi o ngā kaiwhakahaere o te auporo, ko Rihi Tenana. Ko ia te pūkōrero mō te hunga e porotēhi ana ki ‘te ana o ngā raiona,’ ki te ‘ara poutama’ o te whare paremata.
Tuatahi, ka mihia te hunga rā e Eruera mō ā rātou whakapau kaha ki te hiki tēnei kaupapa. E ai ki a Rihi, ko te ngako o te kaupapa, mā Ngāi Māori ā rātou tamariki e tiaki, ā, me homai ngā rauemi ki a rātou ki te whakapai i ngā raru o ngā whānau Māori. Ahakoa kua whakapau moni te kāwana mō tenei momo mahi, e ai ki a Rihi – “Mō te aha? Mō te kore.” Ki a ia, me noho ngā tamariki i ō rātou whānau, i ō rātou whakapapa, i tō rātou ahurea, kia tū kaha rātou i tō rātou tuakiritanga. Ki a ia, mehemea ka tino mōhio te tamaiti ko wai ia, ka piki ake te ora.
Ko te pātai a Eruera, me tuku rauemi ki a wai. Ko tā Rihi whakautu, ko te mea nui, ki ngāi Māori – otirā, tuatahi, ki ngā kaimahi o Whānau Ora – nō te mea, kei te mahi rātou i te taha o ngā whanau, nō reira, me tuku ngā rauemi ki a rātou.
Vocabulary
porotēhi protest
rāwekeweke meddling, interfering
i tua mai, i tua atu in this context, more important
pūkōrero spokesperson
‘te ana o ngā raiona’ figurative – ‘the lion’s den’
‘te ara poutama’ the ascending staircase – in this case, the steps of parliament
In this episode, Che Wilson talks with Tumamao Harawira about a new section of the law that strengthens links between Oranga Tamariki and te ao Māori. The interview predates the Māori-led review of Oranga Tamariki which began with a hui in Auckland this Saturday (13th July).
Che Wilson photo: RNZ
Here is the original interview (3rd July, 2019), on Manako:
And here is the audio version of the summary:
I tēnei uiuinga, ka kōrero a Tumamao ki a Che Wilson, te Perehitini o te Pāti Māori, mō tētahi āhuatanga hou o te tūre e pā ana ki Oranga Tamariki.
Tuatahi, ka mihi atu a Che ki ana hoa mahi, ki a Te Ururoa Flavell, ki a Marama Davidson hoki, mō ā raūa whakatairanga i tēnei mea hou i te whare paremata i ngā tau kua pahure. E ai ki a Che, ko te whakaaro matua o te wāhanga hou o te ture (ko 7aa te wāhanga o te ture), ko te tohutohu i te kaihautu o Oranga Tamariki “kia whakarite ngā kaupapa e hāngai ana ki Ngāi Māori”, ā, kia kaha ake ana hononga ki ngā iwi me ngā rōpū Māori i roto i te hapori; ka mutu, me rīpoata te kaihautu mō ngā mahi i tutukia ia tau, ia tau. Ki a Che, he pai tēnei mea hou, nā te mea, nā tēnei he ngāwari ake te arotake i ngā mahi a Oranga Tamariki.
I kōrero hoki a Che mō te rīpoata i puta mai e tata ana ki toru tekau tau i muri, ko ‘Pūao te ata tū’ – e ai ki tērā ripoata, he kaikiri ētahi o ngā mahi a ngā tari kāwana ki ngā tamariki Māori. Kāore i tino whaia ngā tohutohu i roto i tērā rīpoata, nō reira kāore i whai hua ngā korero o roto. E ai ki a Che, ahakoa he iti tēnei mea (ko te 7aa), he “weri kotahitanga” ki te ao Māori, he tohu o te whakaaro pai kia kaha ake ngā hononga ki te ao Māori.
I kōrero hoki rāua mō te arotake Māori i whakatū nā te Pou Matakana, me te hui ka haere ake nei ā erā atu rā whakatā (ko te 13 o Hōngongoi) ki Tāmaki Makaurau, kia tino whai mana ai te ao Māori i te tiaki i ngā tamariki Māori (kua tīmata te arotake ināianei, kua tū kē te hui).
Vocab
tohutohu
instruct, order
e hāngai ana ki…
concerning the… / to do with the …
hononga
links
arotake
review
te kaihautu
the leader/ CEO
ngā tari kāwana
government departments
Te Pou Matakana
Whānau Ora Commissioning Agency in Te Ika a Māui (North Island)
In this episode, Rangi Matamua talks with Tumamao Harawira about Matariki. The link to the original interview on Manako has now lapsed, but the audio of the original is attached. The original interview should be quite easy for intermediate learners to follow.
The original interview:
And my summary (just under three minutes):
I tēnei hōtaka, ka kōrero a Tūmamao ki a Rangi Mātāmua mō Matariki. E ai ki a Tūmamao, kua rongonui haere a Matariki i Aotearoa, ā, he kaha te whakaae a Rangi. Ki a ia, ko te kāhui whetū o Mataraki e whai wāhi ana ināianei i te tuakiritanga o ngā tāngata katoa o Aotearoa, ahakoa ko wai te iwi, ahakoa nō hea rātou. Mō tāna ake mahi hei whakatairanga i a Matariki, he nui te wā i huri haere ia i te motu, i te ao whānui hoki, e kōrero ana mō Matariki. E hia kē ana kauhau mō tēnei kaupapa, i Aotearoa, i Ahitereira, i whenua kē hoki.
I pātai hoki a Tūmamao mō te huringa a ētahi o Ngāi Māori ki te maramataka tawhito o te ao Māori. He kaha tā Rangi whakaae, engari, ki a ia, he maha hoki ngā tāngata o iwi kē e whai ana i ēnei momo mātauranga o neherā. E ai ki a Rangi, ko te raru kē, nā te whai i te maramataka i mahia whānuitia (te Mane, te Tūrei, te mea, te mea), kua pakaru ngā herenga ki te tāiao, ki ngā āhuatanga o te marama. Ka mihi a ia ki a rātou e manaaki ana i ngā momo mātauranga o neherā mō ngā whetū me te marama (ko Rereata Makiha tētahi). Otirā, e ai ki a Rangi, ko te mea matua – mēnā ka whai wāhi te tangata i ēnei momo mātauranga, me kaha ake te haere ki waho. Ehara i te mea me hī ika, me ngaki māra, engari me aro ki ngā rākau, ki ngā manu, ki te tāiao i ō rātou ake tāone, i ō rātou ake rohe.
In this interview, Tūmamao Harawira talks to Che Wilson, the new president of the Māori party, about the recent ‘wellbeing’ budget.
The original interview should be reasonably easy to follow, although Che (from Ngāti Rangi) does not pronounce the ‘h’, so (for example) ‘huri’ becomes ‘uri’.
If you find errors here, feel free to contact me and let me know!
Here is the original interview (broadcast on Manako, Radio Waatea, on 2/6/19):
Here is my spoken summary:
I tēnei uiuinga ka kōrero tahi a Tūmamao Harawira rāua ko Che Wilson mō te tahua pūtea i puta mai ai i tērā wiki. Ko Che te perehitini hōu o te Tōrangapū Māori, o te Pāti Māori.
E ai ki a Che, me mihi ka tika ki te kāwanatanga mō ō rātou whakaaro mō te oranga o ngā tāngata o te motu, engari, kāore i te pai ētahi āhuatanga o tēnei tahua pūtea mō ngāi Māori.
Ki a ia, ko te tino raru, i tukuna pūtea ki ngā tari kāwanatanga kia whakapai ai i ngā raru o te ao Māori, kāore i tukua pūtea ki ngā rōpū Māori kia mahi ai i ēnei mahi. E ai ki ngā kaikōrero e rua, ko te whakaaro o te kāwanatanga, he pai ake te huna i te pūtea hei āwhina i te ao Māori i roto i te pūtea i tohaina ki Aotearoa whānui, kei amuamu ētahi mō te āwhina i te iwi Māori.
Ko tētahi atu raru, ahakoa i tukua moni mō ētahi mea, kāore i te nui tēnā kia tino pai ai ngā raru – hei tauira, ki a Che, āhua iti te moni mō ngā papakāinga – torutoru noa iho ngā whare hōu e taea te hanga, nā te iti o te pūtea i tukua. E ai ki a Che, ko te tirohanga whānui, he tino nui ngā raru i Aotearoa – hei tauira noa iho, he nui te hunga kore kāinga – otirā, he iti noa iho te rongoā i tukua e te kāwana kia pai ai ēnei raru tino nui.
Vocabulary
tahua pūtea budget
pūtea funding, money
perehitini president
oranga wellbeing
tari kāwanatanga government departments
raru problem(s)
huna hide
he nui tēnā to be enough
toha(ina) distribute,
te tirohanga whānui the wide view, the big picture
Dr Ruakere Hond (photo from Western Institute of Technology at Taranaki)
The introduction for this post, about the 2019 Ockham Awards and dated 14th May, is from Noted.co.nz
Te Mūrau o te Tuhi, a discretionary Māori language award, was presented this year to pioneering te reo and tikanga academics Sir Tīmoti Kāretu and Professor Te Wharehuia Milroy for their workHe Kupu Tuku Iho: Ko te Reo Māori te Tatau ki te Ao. Professor Milroy died last week.
“This book’s value is undeniable. Its language, accessible. This is a doorway to their world,” said the awards’ te reo Māori judge Dr Ruakere Hond.
He Kupu Tuku Iho is a collection of structured conversations between Tīmoti Kāretu and the late Te Wharehuia Milroy, lightly edited by a team from Te Ipukarea. It mainly deals with tikanga and reo Māori issues. In this interview Ruakere Hond talks with Eruera Morgan about the book. The interview ends with a brief but beautiful maimai aroha (tribute) to Wharehuia from Ruakere. The original interview is clear and accessible, and should not prove too challenging for an intermediate learner.
Here is the original interview, dated 17th May, 2019.
As for my own summary, please be aware that my own reo may well be less than ideal…
E ai ki a Ruakere, he uaua tana tūnga i te pō whakanui ki te tuku atu i ōna whakaaro mō te pukapuka nei, i te mea he pōuri tonu tōna ngākau mō Te Wharehuia. Ko tā Ruakere, ko te āhua o tēnei pukapuka, he mea e tautoko ana i tā Wharehuia kōrero; me huri te reo Māori i te matamata o te pene ki te matamata o te arero. Ki tō Ruakere whakaaro, ā tōna wā, ko tēnei te hua o te pukapuka nei.
Ko tā Ruakere, ko tētahi āhuatanga nui o te pukapuka whai tohu, kia hāngai ai ki a rātou e pānui ana, ā, ki a ia, he pēnā tēnei pukapuka. Āhua ngāwari te rere o te reo, ahakoa te matatau o ngā ‘kaituhi’. Ko te reo i kitea i reira, ko te reo o ngā mea i tipu ake i ngā wā, i ngā wāhi e rere ana te reo Māori i roto i ngā kāinga o Tūhoe.
E ai ki a Ruakere, he nui ngā aronga o te pukapuka, ā, he tini ngā kaupapa, otirā, ko te mea nui, ko te whitiwhiti whakaaro, ko te wānanga i waenganui i a rāua e pā ana ki ngā tikanga o te ao Māori. Ahakoa tērā, ko te reo i kitea i reira, ko te reo o te kāuta, o te tēpu kai – kāore i te reo ōkawa.
Heoi anō, e ai ki a Ruakere, i tana pānuitanga i ngā kōrero a Tīmoti mō te reo, kāore i kitea he tino tohutohu āna, otirā he momo wero ki te kaipānui – he pēhea ō koutou whakaaro mō te reo, mō te whakarauora o te reo, ā, ka pēhea e nui ake ai te ora o te reo Māori?
Vocab
te matamata o te pene the point of the pen
he nui ngā aronga (the book) focuses on many aspects
e pā ana ki concerning, about
te reo o te kāuta the language spoken in the kitchen (everyday, informal)
Tīmoti Kāretu (left), and Te Wharehuia Milroy (photo from waateanews.com)
Kia ora anō. Tīmoti Kāretu spoke with Eruera Morgan last week on Manako about Te Wharehuia Milroy, his old companion in the revival of te reo Māori. The introduction may be hard for learners to follow, but Tīmoti’s words of tribute to his old friend are reasonably straightforward. Here is the original interview:
Here is my summary (soundfile and written version):
Kia ora anō, e ngā kaipānui, e ngā kaiwhakarongo.
Kei te mōhio te katoa o te āo Māori i mate a Te Wharehuia Milroy i tērā wiki. I tēnei uiuinga, ka kōrero a Eruera Morgan ki a Tīmoti Kāretu mōna.
Whai muri i te kupu maimai aroha a Eruera, ka whakaputa a Tīmoti i ōna whakaaro mō tōna hoa kua riro atu ki te pō. Tuatahi, e ai ki a Tīmoti, ahakoa te tangi o te ngākau, kua tau kē te mauri o ōna hoa, nā te mea, kua mutu te mamae ki a ia i tōna māuiuitanga roa.
I pātai a Eruera mō tētahi tino āhuatanga i ū ki tō Tīmoti ngākau mō Wharehuia, ā, ka kōrero a Tīmoti mō te ngākau whakaiti o tōna hoa. Ki a ia, “he ngākau āwhina, he ngākau tautoko, he ngākau whakahau” ōna ki a rātou e kaingākau ana ki te reo Māori, ki ngā tikanga Māori hoki. I huri a Tīmoti ki tā Pānia Papa kōrero: “Ko Wharehuia te kāmura o te whare o te whakaiti.” E rima tekau kē ngā tau i mahi tahi a Tīmoti rāua ko Wharehuia, i te Whāre Wānanga o Waikato, i te Taura Whiri, i te poari matua o te Kōhanga Reo, ā, i te Panekiretanga hoki. Ahakoa te whiu o ngā kupu tēnā ki tēnā, ka nui hoki te tautoko a tēnā ki tēnā i ngā tau kua hipa.
Otirā, e ai ki a Tīmoti, ahakoa te tangi o te ngākau, he waimarie te ao Māori i te reanga hōu e kōrero ana i te reo Māori, e ū ana ki ngā tikanga Māori, e kawe ana i te reo Māori ki ngā reanga e heke mai nei. Ki a ia, ahakoa te mate tētēkura, ka ara tētēkura, ā, ka mihia e ia te reanga o Eruera mā. E ai ki a ia, i tō ratou reanga kua whakatinanatia ngā wawata o Wharehuia, ā, ko rātou ngā hua o ā Wharehuia mahi.
Vocabulary
kaipānui reader
kaiwhakarongo listener
uiuinga interview
ngākau whakaiti humility
whakahau encourage(ment)
kāmura builder, carpenter
e ū ana ki staying faithful to, sticking with
reanga generation
e heke mai nei in the future, in days to come
ka mate tētēkura, ka ara tētēkura one leader dies, another arises
Kia ora koutou. In this Manako interview, Eruera Morgan talks with Henare Kingi, a kaumātua from Ngāpuhi, now living in the Hutt region, near Wellington. Kingi was a significant figure in Māori broadcasting in Wellington for many years, and is still regularly interviewed on Radio Waatea.
Here is the original interview (abbreviated somewhat – first 6 minutes only):
Here is my spoken summary:
Kia ora koutou. Ko te kaupapa o tēnei ‘Kōrero Poto’ ko te Rā o Anzac, otirā, ko te rā maumahara i ngā hoia o neherā. I tēnei uiuinga, ka kōrero a Eruera Moran me Henare Kingi mō tēnei rā whakahirahira. Ko Henare he kaumātua nō Ngāpuhi, otirā, kei Awakairangi, i te takiwā o Hutt Valley, tōna kainga ināianei.
I muri i ngā kupu whakataki a Eruera, ka mihi ia ki te koroua rā, ki a Henare, ā, ka pātai a Eruera mō ōna whakaaro mō ngā kupu whakatūpato a te Kāwanatanga, kia iti haere ngā hui maumahara, kei tūpono pea tētahi mea kino, kei puta mai pea te raru. Ka whakaae a Henare i te mahi whakatūpato a te Kāwanatanga, otirā, ki a ia, me hui tonu ngāi Māori ki te maumahara i ngā hōia i mate, i ngā mōrehu hoki, i a rātou i haere ki ngā pakanga katoa, ahakoa nō Aotearoa, nō Ahitereira rānei. E ai ki a Henare, ahakoa tōna korouatanga me tana noho ki te kāinga i te ata hāpara, i huri ōnā whakaaro whakamoemiti ki a rātou i mate, i whakaaro hoki ia mō rātou i hoki mai, otirā, i whara (he pēnā tōna ake tuakana). E ai ki a ia, kua riro mā rātou e pakanga te pakanga, nō reira, me maumahara kē ngā uri i ngā mahi pai a ngā mātua, a ō rātou tuākana, a o rātou tūpuna, ahakoa tāne, wāhine rānei.
Kia ora koutou! In this episode, Haami Piripi (Te Rārawa), a prominent figure in the Iwi Chairs Forum, briefly discusses ‘Te Pire Whakamate’, or the Euthanasia Bill. The link to his interview is below. The interview is quite short, and should be reasonably easy to follow for an advanced beginner / intermediate learner.
And here is my summary:
Tēnā koutou, e te hunga e whakarongo ana ki tēnei kōrero poto mō ngā take o te wā. I te uiuinga nei, ka kōrero a Tūmamao Harawira ki a Haami Piripi mō te ‘Pire Whakamate’ – ko te ‘Euthanasia Bill’ i te reo Pākehā. He mea poto te pūrongo tūturu, āhua ngāwari hoki, nō reira, me whakarongo koutou ki tērā.
E ai ki a Haami, ko te tino whakaaro o te pire nei ko te aroha ki te tangata, kia ea te mamae, kia hiki te taumahatanga i runga i te tangata e mate ana. Ka hoki ōna mahara ki te wā e tamariki ana ia, ki te wā e mate ana ngā kuia, koroua. Nā ētahi o rātou i whakamutu te kai, whakamutu te inu ina, ki ō rātou whakaaro, ko tērā te wā mate rawa ai. Ko te raru i ēnei rā, kāore e whakaae pea ngā kaimahi whakaora ki te tuku mana ki ngā tāngata e mate ana. E ai ki a Haami, he rerekē pea te kaha o ngā koroua kuia i tērā wā, otirā, mā tēnei ‘Pire Whakamate’ ka riro i ngā kaimahi hauora te mana āwhina i ngā tāngata e hiahia ana kia mate ai, ā ki a ia, he mea pai tērā. Nā te poto o te uiuinga, kāore i wānangatia ngā āhuatanga katoa o tēnei kaupapa tino uaua, otirā i tautokona e Haami te tino whakaaro o te pire nei.
Maanu Paul has also been interviewed on this topic. Here is a link to that interview. This interview is longer, but reasonably easy to follow.
This post and podcast are based on Te Waihoroi Shortland’s tribute to the actor Anzac Wallace, who died of cancer recently. The broadcast is an excellent example of such a maimai aroha, or farewell tribute. Some are much more formal; this is less so, but maintains a respectful and somewhat elevated tone, while maintaining elements of a more formal farewell tribute.
Here is the original interview, broadcast on 9th April, 2019.
Here is my summary:
Tēnā koutou. He mihi nui ki a koutou e whakarongo ana.
I tēnei pūrongo, ka tuku maimai aroha a Te Waihoroi Shortland mō Anzac Wallace, tētahi kaiwhakaari rongonui i ngā tau kua hipa, i ngā kiriata ko Utu, ko Mauri, ko Rapa Nui, me ētahi atu. E ai ki a Te Waihoroi, ahakoa i tae a Anzac “ki te hōhonutanga o te raru” (nā te mea i mauheretia ia i Pāremoremo mō ngā hara nui), i puta ake a ia ki ngā taumata o te mahi whakaari. I kōrero hoki a Te Waihoroi mō tētahi atu āhuatanga o Anzac; he kaimahi ia mō te uniana, ā, e ai ki a Te Waihoroi, “i tū ki te mura o te ahi mō ngā tika o te kaimahi.”
Ehara i te mea ko te mahi whakaari te tino whāinga a Anzac. E kāo – i tūpono noa iho, nā te mea, i kitea a Anzac e tētahi hanga kiriata; ki ōna whakaaro, he pai a Anzac mō tēnei momo mahi. Otirā, ki a Te Waihoroi, ko te mea nui, ko Anzac te tauira o te momo tangata ka piki ki runga i ngā whakamātautau, kia whai angitū ā tōna wā. Ahakoa te kino kē o tana tīmatatanga, he maha ngā mea i oti i a ia. Otirā, ki a Te Waihoroi, mehemea i tino whai wāhi a Zac i ngā mātauranga Māori, “he aha rā ngā mea e kore e oti i a ia?”
I te mutunga o te uiuinga, ka mihia a Te Waihoroi e Eruera i tana ‘reo mōteatea, reo poroporoaki, reo whakairo i te āhuatanga o te ao i nohoia e Zac.”
Vocabulary
kaiwhakaari actor
ngā tau kua hipa past years
mauhere(tia) imprisoned
uniana union (trade union)
ngā whakamātautau testing, trials
whāinga aim, intention
te mura o te ahi the heat of battle (idiom)
whai angitū achieve success
te mura o te ahi the heat of battle
ngā tika o te kaimahi the rights of the workers
tūpono happen
ngā mea i oti i a ia the things he achieved
whai wāhi take part in
reo mōteatea expression of grief
reo poroporoaki bidding (someone) farewell
reo whakairo i… poetic way to say ‘speaking in a way that enhances the topic’
This interview, from Manako, deals with a renewed call to change the main street names in Tauranga from the names of Pākehā soldiers, and to commemorate instead the Māori ancestors who led the fight against them in the 19th century. You can find out more about the conflict here (at the NZ Government history website).
The interview broadcast is downloaded here. It’s worth listening to the original. Charlie’s kōrero is quite easy to follow, even if Eruera’s is quite a bit more challenging.
Below is my brief summary of the broadcast.
I tēnei uiuinga, ka kōrero a Eruera Morgan ki a Charlie Tawhiao o Ngāi Te Rangi, mō ngā ingoa o ngā tiriti o Tauranga Moana. I tēnei wā, kua tapaina ngā tiriti matua hei maumahara ki ngā hōia i whawhai ki Ngāi Te Rangi me ngā iwi o reira i tērā atu rautau, i ngā pakanga i tapaina e Charlie ‘te Riri o te Pākehā.’ Hei tauira, kō Cameron St te tiriti matua o Tauranga, ā ko Cameron te tianara Pākehā i whawhai i reira.
E ai ki a Charlie, kua puta mai anō te whakaaro o ngā iwi o reira kia huri ai ngā ingoa o ngā tiriti i tērā tāone nui ki ngā ingoa o ō rātou tūpuna, me te mea, ki ngā ingoa o rātou i whawhai mō ō rātou whenua i ngā pakanga. I mihi hoki a Charlie ki ngā rangatahi, nā rātou i whakahōungia anō te whakaaro nei. Ki a ia, ehara tēnei i te mahi māmā noa iho. Ko te tino whakaaro, kia hoki anō te mana o terā wāhi ki ngā iwi o reira.
Nā Eruera i tino tautoko tēra whakaaro. Ki a ia, ko tēnei te tikanga o ngā tūpuna, mā ngā ingoa ka ora tonu ai ngā pūrakau o neherā, ka ora tonu ai ngā hītoria mō ngā tīpuna, mō te iwi hoki.
Vocabulary
tapa(ina) named
Te Riri o te Pākehā ‘The Anger of the Pākehā’ (New Zealand land wars)
