Te whakahokinga kōiwi tūpuna mai i Vienna

This interview occurred several weeks ago, but the topic is interesting, and the original is really clear and should be fairly easy to follow. As always on here, the interview is from the programme ‘Manako’ on Radio Waatea.

A reminder – these posts are designed to help adults learning te reo Māori. The original interview is here, plus an easier / slower summary to listen to and to read.

Here is the link to the original interview (Manako, 6th October 2022):

And here is the link to my spoken version of the summary:

I tēnei patapatai, ka kōrero tahi a Pohaturoa Waenga me Te Arikirangi Mamaku-Ironside mō te whakahokinga mai o ētahi kōiwi tūpuna i puritia ai i te whare pupuri taonga i Vienna. Ko Te Arikirangi te kaitohutohu kōiwi tangata mō ‘Karanga Aotearoa’ – kei te rōpū nei te mana whakahaere i te whakahokinga kōiwi tangata.

E ai ki te kaiuiui, a Pohaturoa, kua pānuitia e ia ngā tuhinga nā Andreas Reischek, ā, i mōhio a Reischek he tino hē tana takahi i ngā tikanga Māori me tana tāhae i ngā kōiwi tangata. Ko tā Pohaturoa pātai tuatahi, he aha i pērā ai te roa o te whakahokinga mai o ērā kōiwi tūpuna?

Ko tā Te Arikirangi, he uaua te tono, te kōrero hoki ki te kāwana o tērā whenua, ki te whare pupuri taonga ki reira hoki. Otirā i aro ngā whakaaro o ētahi hōia Māori nō te Hokowhitu a Tū ki tēnei kaupapa i te mutunga o te pakanga tuarua o te ao. Inā ki Itāria rātou, ka puta mai te whakaaro me haere rātou ki Vienna kia kōkiri ai i te kaupapa, otirā kāore i taea e rātou te whakahokinga mai o ngā kōiwi te tutuki.

Nā Te Arikirangi i whakamārama ko wai a Andreas Reischek; nō Ateria (Austria) ia, ā, i mahia e ia ana mahi tāhae i waenganui i tērā atu rautau. Ko te wāhi i tino mahi ai ia i tana kimi kōiwi, ko te Tai Tokerau. Otirā, nā tana tuku kōrero i ngā hautaka (i ngā journals, me kī), i ana reta hoki, i puta mai te kōrero mō ana mahi kino ki ngā iwi Māori.

E ai ki Te Arikirangi, kāore i tino mōhiotia nō hea ngā kōiwi katoa, ahakoa tā Reischek tuhinga mō te kaupapa rā. Otirā i ngā wiki e heke mai nei, ka āta rangahaua te kaupapa, ā, ka kōrero tahi ngā kaimahi o ‘Karanga Aotearoa‘ me ngā iwi o Te Taitokerau, kia mōhio ai i hea a Reischek i huri haere ai ki te rapu taonga, kōiwi hoki.

Ko tā Pohaturoa, he mahi uaua tērā – ka whakaaetia e Te Arikirangi, engari, ko tāna, “He mahi pai.“

Kupu hōu
patapatai	interview (uiuinga)
kōiwi	bones
puritia	passive of pupuri – to hold
whare pupuri taonga	museum
aro	turn one’s attention to
kaitohutohu	adviser (in this context)
kāwana	government
Te Pakanga Tuarua o te Ao	Second World War
Itāria	Italy
Te Hokowhitu-a-Tū	The Māori Battalion
kia kōkiri ai i te kaupapa	to move forward the issue
i ngā wiki e heke mai nei	in the weeks ahead
rangahau(a)	(be) research(ed)